Ep 52: Gwen & Rylan

Gwen and her 12-year-old Rylan have put out a book called “If I Squeeze Your Head I’m Sorry”. Rylan has Autism and Tourettes, what he calls his “specialabilities”, and this book is a glimpse of what it’s like to be in his brain. There are many things I love about this interview. Rylan is the youngest guest I’ve had on the podcast and it was great to hear from him in his own words. I really enjoyed speaking with his mom, Gwen. I don’t need to give it all away because you can listen to the interview, but there is something that she says that really has stuck with me and sparked some sweet conversations on my own circles…the idea of true inclusion, the sense of belonging and “we want you” versus the inclusion of “we accommodate because we have to”. That distinction really spoke to me and I know will be fodder for many thoughts and conversations to come. So without further ado, I’d love for you all to gather close and share in this beautiful conversation with Gwen and Rylan.