241: ‘More Smarter’ With Joanna Stern

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Joanna Stern returns to the show. Topics include the iPhone XR (and the argument that it might be the best phone in Apple's current lineup), Apple's new Smart Battery Cases, Apple Watch, and, of course, the new MacBook Air.

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