434: Natalya Shelburne on Design Engineering

ShopTalk - En podkast av Chris Coyier & Dave Rupert - Mandager

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Natalya Shelburne is out guest to talk about her work at the New York Times, the importance of job titles, design engineering, design systems, and 2020 hot takes and soapboxes: childcare in the pandemic, education, and conferences.

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