Platform Engineering & Platform as a Product with Luca Galante

What is Platform Engineering, why does it exist and why should you care? Those are the main questions we discuss in this episode and who better to do that with than Luca Galante 🙌 He shares his journey with platform engineering, the different flavours he's seen in organisations and how the DevOps is dead controversy developed. Enjoy! 🎙 Connect with Luca Galante:   https://twitter.com/luca_cloud https://linkedin.com/in/luca-galante More on Platform Engineering:   https://platformengineering.org Full episode on YouTube ▶️ https://youtu.be/x8kDNO1Pjc0 New episodes every Wednesday with our host 🎙Patrick Akil!   Big shoutout to Xebia for making this episode possible! OUTLINE: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:26 - How Luca got into Platform Engineering 00:04:01 - Shared identity 00:07:00 - What is platform engineering? 00:08:35 - Platform as a product 00:11:34 - Platform team structures 00:14:42 - The right level of abstraction 00:17:02 - Frustration in complex landscapes 00:18:46 - Ideal starting point for platform teams 00:21:23 - Platform teams competing 00:24:32 - Falling in love with your platform 00:26:09 - Managed solutions 00:28:31 - Blueprints and reference architectures 00:31:22 - Being sustainable 00:33:19 - Zero to one and one+ people 00:35:45 - No platform team yet? 00:38:14 - Tragedy of the commons 00:40:05 - Why platform initiatives fail 00:42:13 - Technical product owners 00:45:05 - Feedback & solving real problems 00:47:02 - The DevOps is dead controversy 00:50:32 - DevOps is dead booth on KubeCon 00:53:26 - Having a healthy conversation